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Saturday, 01 November 2008

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Shannon

Amen. It's a constant source of amazement to me when self-proclaimed liberals end up bashing unions (and this sadly happens far too frequently - even when hotels or jobs aren't at issue. There's a disturbing trend among young (35 and under) liberals to be dismissive and cynical about unions). Unions are one of the few staunch allies liberal democrats have: liberals want to raise the minimum wage, provide universal health care, decrease the income disparity in this country, provide excellent education to our children. Who is right there, with us every step of the way? Organized labor. You think liberals are marginalized in politics now? It would be far, far worse if not for unions and the constant political work they do.

Here's the essence of unions: when we stand together, we are stronger than when we don't. Yes, some times that means you have to stand with others, even when you don't completely agree with them - but they'll do the same for you and it works out better for everyone in the end. It's a lesson some liberals could really stand to learn.

So, as one of our (I'm talking to liberals of course) staunchest allies, perhaps we can cut a bit of slack to unions every now and then? Give them the benefit of the doubt that maybe, just maybe, progressive and effective unions like UNITE might know what they are doing?

jake

I don't know that we have to take them at their word - I think the rationale behind blocking the expansion of a viciously anti-union business is pretty straightforward. Every victory for such a business is a loss for the workers in that sector - it shows that the unions are powerless to stop them, and because they gain a competitive advantage thru the greater exploitation that is possible without a union, they put pressure even on already unionized workplaces to cut wages and benefits.

The theatrical outrage at HPP is either very naive or insincere. And to be honest it sounds like the latter - these are exactly the talking points used by neoliberal apologists of absolute freedom for business thru absolute servitude of workers.

Jay

"neoliberal apologists of absolute freedom for business thru absolute servitude of workers"

This is the gibberish that's spouted by those who spend too much time in the ivory tower.

withrow

Jay, if you want to argue the issues with Jake, go ahead. But your ad hominem attacks are not wanted here.

Joe B.

"Elitist White Liberals" in particular, want the incompetent government to solve all problems relating to "equality." Therefore, in a sense, Organized Labor is much more along the lines of allowing the whole of intrinsic capitalism, to fairly run it's course (IF it was designed to be fair, and that's sometimes a big "if"). Is it any wonder why huge transnational corporations and international bankers have been funding this "fake left" for the last half century? "Giv'em an extra buck and hour, lousy health care, and a gay-friendly workplace" seems to be their party line.

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